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CVS DONT'S - PLUMBING PIPE FOR YOUR VACUUM SYSTEM
The Secret Is Out! Compare the price as we did October 2006 in our home town, Fort Worth Texas. We called 6 area plumbing suppliers and home improvement warehouses for a 10 ft, 2" diameter section of SCHD 40 water pipe. The cost ranged from just over $7. up to $10. each with tax. Ten sections of pipe; 100 feet in total will cost you $85. on average in a mid to large market city. This does not include your personal time to purchase the pipe or gas to drive to the store - just the cost of the pipe. And unless you have a truck or trailer you might need to cut the pipe to drive home or somehow fashion the pipe to the roof or out the trunk of your car - not exactly convenient. Vacdepot offers our CV-T100B bundle of central vacuum pipe for $89. Our pipe is ready to install, requires no special adaptors (which makes the system future proof) and includes delivery to your door or worksite in packaging that protects the pipe from bends, cracks and chipped edges. Water pipe fittings also cost as much or more than vacuum fittings. In example a 2" 90° water pipe elbow is $2.00 versus $1.14 for a 90° vacuum sweep elbow (also called a long or airflow radius ell). Don't forget to add to your cost the price of those special adaptor-reducer connectors and your savings have easily surpassed the cost of using the correct materials. So if you cannot save money using water pipe and fittings, what possible good reason could there be to use the wrong materials in your brand new home? Could it be there is a reason that someone may not want to sell you ASTM rated CVS tubing? We tell you the truth as we see it later in the article under the section titled "Selling CVS tube is not fun". This article specifically addresses the idea of using 2 inch SCHD40 tube inside a residential attic and/or basement and walls for homes under 18000 square feet. There is however an application for 2 inch SCHD40 tube in central vacuum systems, those systems requiring direct burial. When vacuum tube must be run in-ground and can not be inside a protective housing it must be converted to 2 inch SCHD40 tube. Regular vacuum tube is not designed for direct burial and could be damaged or crushed by the pressure of a slab poured over top or heavy vehicle traffic. Most often this is used in homes with a detached garage or some special needs retrofit applications. Commercial applications do not require 2 inch SCHD40 pipe. Most commercial applications are fitted with all steel tubing instead of PVC due to commercial building fire codes.
Ok, so we know plumbing pipe is the wrong material and we know you will not save money using it, so why would anyone think this was ever a good idea? Lets examine their claims in some detail.
"Water plumbing PVC pipe will increase your CFM" The true working orifice of a central cleaning system is 5/8" up to 7/8" in diameter on average. Imagine an hourglass with its sand slowly passing through the restricted orifice in the center. Making the area larger on top or larger below the center of the hourglass will not make the sand move any faster through the small center. The number of cubic feet per minute (volume) in a CV system is limited by the smallest diameter passage in the vacuum system. Using larger ID pipe with small reducer couplings limits airflow throughout the entire system and creates a bottleneck when the air stream must be "reduced" to enter the power unit. Another important factor of tube performance is its interior design. CVS tube is built differently than water pipe in it's interior wall construction (smoothness of the tube). This point was mentioned on a beginners do's and dont's list in our trade publication; "While some installers use schedule 40 plumbing tubing and elbows in place of central vac tubing, doing so actually reduces the efficiency of a central vac. Plumbing tubing has rough inside wall surfaces and tight elbows that restrict air flow, encourage clogs and reduce suction." - Dave Schenk, OEM Products Manager for H-P (VacuFlo) Products and a 31-year veteran of the vacuum industry from the November 2006 issue of Central Vacuum Professional trade magazine.
"Water pipe is much thicker and stronger than CVS pipe."
"Water pipe comes in lengths up to 20 FT requiring less cutting and gluing"
"Water pipe is less likely to clog" CVS pipe and fitting manufacturers do not design their product to clog, but in the extremely rare case it should happen the clogs are accessible and removable once the walls are finished. Water pipe fittings have no such design and may clog in an inaccessible wall or attic. The guys making water pipe never thought how it might work for your central vacuum systems' airflow. That was never the products design. PVC pipe is not all the same. One look at the ASTM description of both and you might just be amazed how much two items made from the same material can be so different.
Shipping is also expensive for pipe, which ships based on the size of the package, not the weight. Often the packages are rated at dimensional weight of 80 lbs which can cost over half the sale price with Vacdepot's free shipping program. It would be less of a burden on our company to suggest a customer use water pipe in their installation and just purchase the valves and fittings from Vacdepot - "to help you save money". As a do-it-yourself consumer you rely on and expect advice and guidance from the professionals selling you the equipment. And we suppose it would be easy to suggest using water pipe when there is no future liability of system performance. Nobody can guarantee the performance of water pipe for an airflow system, and if you do have trouble with your system who are you going to call for help? The great folks who suggested you use the wrong materials? Or perhaps the company that sold you the water pipe that you then installed for the wrong purpose? You can see where neither company would be inclined to help. When you use the wrong material for your installation and either have to rip it all out or must fix it later, then you the installer are the only one responsible. Selling and installing only ASTM Vacuum tube is a requirement of a reputable installer/dealer, not an option. It may not easy and may not be profitable in some sales but it is always the right thing to do. Don't let your dealer push you into an option that is more comfortable for them and not better for you.
An Original Vacdepot Article. © 2008
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